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Subject: Re: 32 bit access with SCSI no available. Hunh? was Re: Win Mosaic alpha 4 (my fix)

Jeff Spirn ([e-mail]) wrote:

: >The down sides (of SCSI drives) are...
: >
: >- some DMA controllers (e.g. Adaptec) limit the DMA address range to 16M over
: >an ISA bus.  Since it's not uncommon to have more than 16M ram in a
: >workstation these days, this is a real downer.  To work around this, the
: >drivers have to copy down to < 16M addresses.  (This is one of the problems on
: Only some Adaptec controllers (the 15xx series, I think) have this problem.
: The 174x series has an "extended" mode which supports 32MB addressing.  I
: have been using this card on a 32MB 486 machine successfully.

I missed the whole thread here, but a fix for this with the Adaptec AHA-1542
cards is to down load the EZScsi v3.0 upgrade patch from the Adaptec BBS.
[phone]   In this patch archive is a small file called ASPIBUF.SYS
which, in effect does the same thing as the double buffering of Microsoft's
smartdrive.  Place the line:
     device=aspi.sys /d
in your config.sys file before the rest of your Adaptec drivers.  This driver
will not load high.  Another, but much, much, much slower solution is to
use the line:
      device=c:\dos\smartdrv.exe /double_buffer +
in your config.sys file.  The '+' forces double buffering to be turned on, but
this really slows the system down....but does work.

I figured this problem out after a week of tech support calls on why windows
would not run whenever I created a ram drive larger than 11Meg.

Mike
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Subject: about Ethernet card


I'm using winsock via SLIP, it works fine, but I'm not satisfy with
the speed, my modem is 14.4K, the ftp speed is about 1.0k/sec.

Is there any way to increase the performance? such as adding an
Ethernet card, I have to use phone line to connect my PC to our
school's terminal servers, so I wonder is it useful to add an
Ethernet card.

Thanks for any comments.

--Lieting
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Subject: Re: Winsock + WFW 3.11 + ODI drivers

Greg Kaisen ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I am trying to get support for Trumpet Winsock applications within
: Windows for Workgroups running on the ODI drivers.
:
: In my CONFIG.SYS the relevant entry is:
:           DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS
:
: In my AUTOEXEC.BAT the relevant lines are:
:           LSL
:           3C503
:           IPXODI
:           VLM
:           NET START
:           ODIHLP
:           ODIPKT
:           WINPKT 0x69
:
: This all loads fine, In Windows (for Workgroups) I can see all of my
: Netware resources, and all of the WFW shared printers, disks, etc.
:
: What does not work are my Winsock applications, if I try to launch one,
: the Winsock TCPMAN launches [it is correctly configured] then the
: application tries/does load but takes almost 45 seconds to do so.  At
: this point (aside for the slowness) all appears normal, but when I try to
: connect to a host, or read Newsgroups, etc. I never get connected.  The
: applications don't hang, they just don't run "completely".
:
: Anyone have any advice?  have I overlooked some subtle change to
: SYSTEM.INI, or some other file?  Please advise.
:
: -thank you,  [e-mail]

Well, this is the same roadblock that I have encountered.  Here is my guess to
what is happening....in DOS, the protocol stack is being formed with ODI, in
Windows for Workgroups, Microsoft used the NDIS procedure to build the protocol
stack.  The conflict comes from the fact that there is no packet driver being
defined for the NDIS protocol stack that Windows for Workgroups uses.

So, looking at the files you load with the ODI stack in your autoexec.bat file,

: In my AUTOEXEC.BAT the relevant lines are:
:           LSL            -  link support layer
:           3C503        -  3com 3c503 odi driver
:           IPXODI        -  ipx odi driver
:           VLM            -  virtual loadable module (virtual netx)
you first load the Netware drivers,

:           NET START        -  windows for workgroups starter
:           ODIHLP        -  odi to ndis helper file
then your Windows for Workgroups files,

:           ODIPKT        -  odi packet driver
:           WINPKT 0x69        -  packet driver translator for windows
and finally, the packet driver files for Trumpet Winsock.


Now, a file you didn't post, but that WfWg uses is the PROTOCOL.INI file.  This
has the setup for the NDIS protocol stack that WfWg uses.  Mine looks like
the following:

    [network.setup]
    version=0x3110
    netcard=ms$elnk3,1,MS$ELNK3,4
    transport=ms$nwlink,NWLINK
    transport=ms$netbeui,NETBEUI
    lana0=ms$elnk3,1,ms$nwlink
    lana1=ms$elnk3,1,ms$netbeui

    [net.cfg]
    PATH=C:\DRIVERS\NW312\NET.CFG

    [MS$ELNK3]

    [Link Driver 3C5X9]
    data=Frame Ethernet_SNAP
    data=Frame Ethernet_802.2
    data=Frame Ethernet_II

    [NWLINK]
    BINDINGS=3C5X9
    FRAME=ETHERNET_802.3

    [NETBEUI]
    BINDINGS=3C5X9
    LANABASE=0
    SESSIONS=10
    NCBS=12

The obvious peice that this file is missing is a packet driver section.
Windows for Workgroups has no clue that a packet driver is to exist, so Trumpet
is unable to load.

Now, with Windows for Workgroups v3.10, there was a shim called NDIS_GUP.SYS
that was loaded in the config.sys which allowed the packet drivers to be
bound in the NDIS protocol stack.  Is there such a shim for Windows for
Workgroups?

I think that would resolve the problems we are having....


Thanks.

Mike
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Subject: winsock lpr (wlprs40) stopped working to Solaris


I hope this is something easy; I was having great luck using
Thomas Heil's Windows lpr spooler to print from windows to
our printers connected to unix boxes on the local net. When
one of the remote machines switched from sunos to solaris,
things broke. The spooler claims to be successful sending to the
remote machine, but nothing gets printed. Other unix machines
have no trouble printing to the same print server. Anyone
have any clues?

rob
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Subject: Changing network parameter in windows environment


Hi all,
I have the following problem:

I use trumpet Winsock 1.0; In windows setup the Network Option is set
up to "No Network Installed".  Now, in this condition some network
application won't run because they check this parameter.
In which way can i modify the  system settings changing Network parameter
to network installed?
Is there some disk from OEM for this network?
Tank you in advance,
Stefano

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